All-In PodcastElizabeth Holmes' Husband Billy Evans: The Trial, Prison & Nathan Fielder’s Documentary
All-In Podcast
How They Met 0:00
Billy Evans says he met Elizabeth Holmes at a Fleet Week party in San Francisco on October 7, 2017. He did not know who she was at first. They talked for hours, then kept talking after he learned she worked two doors down from him. He remembers her as curious, attentive, and oddly calm while the Theranos story was already turning public.
Love During The Case 7:00
Their friendship lasted about six months before it turned romantic. Evans says the relationship deepened while Holmes was under indictment and surrounded by lawyers, records, and relentless press. He describes her as strict about rules and silent in public, even as articles, films, and podcasts multiplied around her. He also says they spent eight months traveling in an off-road RV with their dog Balto, moving through trailer parks and national forests while trying to stay out of sight.
Trial and contract losses 15:03
He says the press turned missed revenue into fraud, but he ties the numbers to Walgreens contracts and the collapse that followed bad coverage. He says 800 Walgreens stores were meant to pay about a million dollars each, and that the company stopped after the Carreyrou article. He also says the trial came during COVID, with masked court days and a newborn at home.
Pregnancy and prison visits 17:01
The couple had their son in July 2020, then went into trial prep with two young children. He describes waking at 4:30 a.m., helping with hair and feeding, and carrying milk through court days while the baby was only three months old. He says the family believed they would win, and that the defense was acquitted on the patient-fraud counts but convicted on three investor counts and conspiracy. He says that led to a 135-month sentence.
Why she stayed silent 23:01
He says the judge told the trial team the case would be fought in court, not in the press, and that Elizabeth followed that rule. He calls that her biggest mistake, because her voice was her strength. He adds that her parents were public-service people, with dinner-table talk about service and easing pain, and says that shaped her. He also says the black turtleneck and deep voice are her story to tell, not his.
Prison and the children 27:30
A live call to Elizabeth from prison interrupts the interview, and he speaks to her briefly onstage. He then describes life with her at Bryan Federal Prison Camp in College Station, where she has been for 1,205 days. He says raising two children alone is hard, especially explaining prison to a five-year-old and a three-year-old, so he answers their questions with the truth. He says he is building a business, raising the kids, and trying to free his wife at the same time.
Prison and the film 30:31
He describes the drive to prison as one of the hardest things he has done. They had been told the wrong things by prison consultants, even about simple rules like New Balances not being allowed. At the gate he hugged Elizabeth and told her he loved her more than everything. She answered, “Now we are free.” He says the documentary was meant to let people see her directly, since she could not speak publicly about the case yet. It was not meant to relitigate the trial, but to show her life and let viewers decide for themselves.
Sentence and prison life 36:01
He explains the prison timeline and says the First Step Act may shorten her time. If she does the required programming, she can earn 16 days off for every 30 days served. On the current estimate, she could reach a halfway house in the second quarter of next year. He also says commissary money is cut by 70 percent, and that the prison is hard on families. Out of 800 women there, only about 30 get visitors on a given weekend.
New company and sensors 39:02
He rejects the idea that he is building Theranos 2.0. He says his background is in photonics and lidar work at Luminar, and that his new company, Hemanthes, is building a new layer of sensors to better understand biology. The work uses Raman spectroscopy, which shines light through a sample and reads the scatter to identify chemical structures. He says the goal is to make these devices cheaper, smaller, and more widely used so they can feed rich data to artificial intelligence.
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