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Jeff Kinney | Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Partypooper | Talks at Google

Talks at Google

Rapid fire warm up questions 0:06

The talk opens with a quick round of rapid fire questions to loosen things up, covering favorites like ice cream over cake, escalators over elevators, writing over reading, Friday as the best day, pizza over pasta, and peanut butter with hot honey as a favorite sandwich. It sets a playful, informal tone before the deeper conversation begins.

A teacher's early lesson on comedy 1:30

Jeff Kinney traces his interest in comedy back to fifth grade, when his teacher Mrs. Norton noticed him trying to be funny but not quite landing it. During a ridiculous rehearsal involving a giant snake costume, she told him there is a difference between laughing with and laughing at, then left him to think about it. That comment pushed him to actually study how to get better at comedy, starting that same year.

Writing alone and handling feedback 3:03

Kinney explains that he rarely shares work in progress, comparing it to baking cookies you don't want people tasting before they're done. He shows the finished book only to his wife, editor, and a few staffers, and almost never hears from kids directly since his tours are more like performances than conversations. Once a book is out, he avoids reading online reactions, choosing instead to let readers debate it without him getting involved, which he says helps him keep his sanity.

Writing thousands of jokes per book 5:00

He describes joke writing as a grind built on sheer output, sometimes producing 2000 jokes for a single book using a distraction free device called a Freewrite. Most of what he writes doesn't make the cut, but enough survives, including a scene he wrote earlier that day for the upcoming book Fight or Flight, where Greg tracks the locations of school bullies. He keeps producing comedy even through hard periods, including the death of his dog the previous year, treating the ability to write funny material regardless of mood as something he has built like a system.

Building a writing routine later in life 8:00

Kinney, 55 at the time, says he only recently developed a routine, having spent most of his life resisting the highly structured habits his military father followed. Now he starts each day with meditation, yoga, and exercise before writing for about two and a half hours, describing the process like lifting weights until the comedic muscle tires out and the jokes stop coming. This year he set himself the goal of writing two screenplays and two books, and credits the new routine with letting him work more efficiently than ever.

The pull of screenwriting 9:30

He contrasts the slow grind of book writing with the fast, exciting feel of screenwriting, where dialogue seems to fly off his fingers and a single sentence can conjure an entire animated world for a team to build. He recalls voicing adjustments for actor Ed Asner, who played Rodrick's grandfather, by texting a director from an airport gate while running to catch a flight, illustrating how remote and immediate the animation recording process can be.

Feeling like an outsider in school 12:31

Kinney pushes back gently on the idea that he was a bad student, saying he was smart but had attention issues that made him need to draw while teachers talked. He describes feeling like an adult trapped in a kid's body, more of an observer than a participant, which he thinks is common among writers and later fed directly into Greg's early line about being stuck in middle school with a bunch of morons.

How pictures deliver the joke 14:00

Rather than having illustrations simply repeat what the text says, Kinney likes the picture to deliver the punchline itself, so removing the images would make the jokes fall flat. He also uses pictures to subvert what the text says, creating cognitive dissonance, as when Greg lets his friend Rowley take the blame for something and the image shows Greg and his mother happily celebrating with ice cream, even though the reader knows what he did was wrong.

Playing it safe on the road to publishing 18:00

Despite the fear of seeing his book turned into a movie by 20th Century Fox so early in his career, Kinney says he never took a dramatic leap of faith. He kept working as a computer programmer, medical software engineer, and game developer, writing Diary of a Wimpy Kid at night, and stayed at his day job for ten more years even after the books took off, only leaving when the company was sold.

Choosing to create instead of consume 19:33

He recalls spending much of his twenties playing video games like Doom and Quake late into the night, until he decided that people are either consumers or creators, comparing it to being either the chef or the diner. That decision to stop gaming freed up the time that let him become a creator, though he admits Fortnite pulled him back in about a decade ago.

Work as a privilege and a grind 21:01

Kinney says his main creative outlet now is simply work itself, even on vacation, and he frames this drive as both a personal preference and a privilege, since whatever he writes will reach millions of children. He is currently drawing sixteen hours a day under deadline, using a computer and a Wacom tablet rather than pen and paper, because digital tools let him easily rescale or adjust characters in ways traditional drawing never allowed.

How ideas turn into finished drawings 23:32

For Kinney the idea always comes first, sometimes as one of thousands of jokes drafted in a day, such as a bully alert system where weaker kids make bird noises to warn each other, with the odd character Fregley making unrelated owl noises up a tree. The final drawing, like Rowley in the tree while bullies stand below, is the last thing completed, after the story and sketches are done.

Finding the plot through volume 25:01

When starting a new book, Kinney usually begins with a broad theme, such as birthdays for Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Party Pooper, but not with a finished plot. He says he sometimes reaches eighty percent of the writing without knowing where the story is going, trusting that because he leads with jokes and produces so much material, a story eventually surfaces, as it did with the three eyed people idea that came together near the end.

Why the characters never age 26:32

Kinney relies mainly on memory and imagination rather than direct contact with today's kids to keep the books feeling relevant. He explains that his characters deliberately do not evolve much, comparing them to sitcom characters who reset at the start of each episode, unlike Harry Potter, whose story had to end once the character aged into adulthood.

Why cartoon characters never change 27:31

Jeff Kinney explains that unlike a series such as Harry Potter, which has to end because its hero grows up, a cartoon character like Donald Duck, Bart Simpson, or Greg Heffley stays the same forever, even as the world around them changes. He says this sameness is part of the magic and makes writing so many books easier, since Greg remains essentially the same character book after book.

Finding the idea for a cover 28:03

Kinney describes how each book starts with a theme, recalling a breakthrough moment while driving toward Munich when he wanted to write about bullying and fear without making it feel violent. He settled on the phrase fight or flight, then pictured Greg, who would always choose flight, dressed as a chicken wearing boxing gloves to capture that choice visually for the cover.

Writing in a cemetery 30:02

During COVID, with his kids home and no office space, Kinney began writing in his local Plainville cemetery, fueled by Oreo Double Stuf cookies and Starburst jelly beans, a habit he has kept for every book since. He also once needed to write around people without hearing English, so he flew to Iceland on a whim, wrote in a restaurant surrounded by Icelandic speakers, and still met his deadline.

Writing for a global audience 33:00

Having visited 42 countries, Kinney noticed kids everywhere see Greg as a friend or neighbor rather than specifically an American kid, so he now focuses on universal experiences like parents, teachers, bullies, pets, and homework. The books are published in about 73 or 74 languages, and drawings are sometimes tweaked to respect different cultures. He ends by describing his editing process simply as highlighting the lines that work as jokes and cutting everything else.

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